The humanist podcast with Andrew Copson
Well-known humanists on the values, opinions, and convictions they live by.
Stephen Fry, Sandi Toksvig, Tim Minchin, Alice Roberts, Richard Dawkins and more than 60 other guests talk about love, death, morality, meaning, and what makes a good life – without religion.
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Latest episode · Episode 66 · 17 Jul 2025
Stephen Fry
On the uncomfortable truth of AI, the peril of being ‘right’ over being ‘effective’, and the dichotomy of humanity
66
On the uncomfortable truth of AI, the peril of being ‘right’ over being ‘effective’, and the dichotomy of humanity
17 Jul 2025
41:29
17 Jul 2025 · 41:29
65
On humanity’s interconnectedness with the world, ‘selfish nihilism’, and a childhood encounter with a tiger
10 Jul 2025
39:23
10 Jul 2025 · 39:23
64
On millennials modernising parliament, living the one life we have, and the joys of being an MP
3 Jul 2025
34:52
3 Jul 2025 · 34:52
63
On old fashioned liberalism, the finiteness of our existence, and free enterprise as a moral force
26 Jun 2025
49:05
26 Jun 2025 · 49:05
62
On human adaptability in an AI world, AI's ethical challenges, and our obsession with sex robots
19 Jun 2025
30:57
19 Jun 2025 · 30:57
61
On the joy of biography and what it means to be human
12 Jun 2025
38:26
12 Jun 2025 · 38:26
60
On the uncomfortable truth of liberalism, populism on the rise, and freedom to Vs freedom from
5 Jun 2025
31:52
5 Jun 2025 · 31:52
59
On her journey to veganism, a lifelong love for animals, and ‘Chick Noir’
29 May 2025
31:09
29 May 2025 · 31:09
58
On escaping the Nazis, memories of the NHS ‘the day it all began’, and xenophobia in 1940s UK
22 May 2025
27:38
22 May 2025 · 27:38
57
On the values of the NHS, fundamental human equality, and the future of one of the UK’s most cherished institutions
16 Nov 2023
37:52
16 Nov 2023 · 37:52
56
On liberalism, being the chief architect of the same-sex marriage act, and her deep aversion to conformity
9 Nov 2023
31:18
9 Nov 2023 · 31:18
55
On becoming a humanist, the joy of teaching, and writing ’The Young Atheist’s Handbook’
2 Nov 2023
34:48
2 Nov 2023 · 34:48
54
On republicanism, the anti-nuclear campaign, and why he’s not a nationalist
26 Oct 2023
28:57
26 Oct 2023 · 28:57
53
On the art of interviewing, equal pay at the BBC, and the ‘toxic’ nature of UK political discourse
19 Oct 2023
40:50
19 Oct 2023 · 40:50
52
On tackling racist pseudoscience, ’Where are you really from?’, and Taylor Swift Vs Charles Darwin
12 Oct 2023
32:59
12 Oct 2023 · 32:59
51
On being a neurosurgeon, living with advanced prostate cancer, and the arguments for assisted dying
5 Oct 2023
32:43
5 Oct 2023 · 32:43
50
On bishops, Scandi convents, and masterminding a school rebellion
28 Sep 2023
33:27
28 Sep 2023 · 33:27
49
From being open minded and then skeptical, to arguments leading you somewhere, and the self as the whole embodied person with no free will but happy and good
13 Oct 2022
35:12
13 Oct 2022 · 35:12
48
From one life, to being who you are, making a difference, and expressing yourself
6 Oct 2022
29:23
6 Oct 2022 · 29:23
47
From the importance of being an activist, to our moral responsibility to learn and be coherent, and critical thinking to find the truth
29 Sep 2022
30:20
29 Sep 2022 · 30:20
46
From cooperation and our social instincts, to moral trade-offs, and the cultural specifics of certain values
22 Sep 2022
30:58
22 Sep 2022 · 30:58
45
From history and common ownership, to history as a framework for great arguments and ongoing engagement, and exposure to as many diverse views and experiences as possible
15 Sep 2022
35:38
15 Sep 2022 · 35:38
44
From fairness as a moral value to the benefits to all of reducing inequality, hopefulness in the cause of social change, and taking the long view
8 Sep 2022
36:43
8 Sep 2022 · 36:43
43
From the necessity of politics to camaraderie of service, opposing imperialism and racism, universal humanity, and the climate threat
1 Sep 2022
34:08
1 Sep 2022 · 34:08
42
From devout atheism to accidental humanism, the values of education and comedy, and mutual respect and tolerance
25 Aug 2022
34:34
25 Aug 2022 · 34:34
41
From curiosity and making sense of things to being a good guest at life's dinner party, our democratic deficit, the good state, and the interconnectedness of all these things
18 Aug 2022
31:31
18 Aug 2022 · 31:31
40
From occasional nostalgia to knowing where and who you are, making the most of the here and now, and putting everything out there
11 Aug 2022
32:58
11 Aug 2022 · 32:58
39
From creativity to community, connection, empathy through art, nothing to excess, and 'know thyself'
4 Aug 2022
27:03
4 Aug 2022 · 27:03
38
From clarity to being accessible, free speech, thinking aloud, thinking together, thinking on the page, and being free and open
27 Jan 2022
42:26
27 Jan 2022 · 42:26
37
From curiosity, to the infinite possibilities of things you can't see, uncertainty, making knowledge useful, making a difference, and the vital importance of diversity to success
20 Jan 2022
33:33
20 Jan 2022 · 33:33
36
From beautiful crystals, to green energy, scientific progress, combating ignorance and fear, and the value of education
13 Jan 2022
29:16
13 Jan 2022 · 29:16
35
From justice for marginalised people from the past, to death rituals, identity in the long human story, and human exceptionalism
6 Jan 2022
29:57
6 Jan 2022 · 29:57
34
From democratic participation, to giving people a voice, an open source world, cooperation, and inspiration in utopianism
16 Dec 2021
28:34
16 Dec 2021 · 28:34
33
From opportunity for all, to contributing to a collective effort, remaking society, and being a pragmatic humanist
9 Dec 2021
28:23
9 Dec 2021 · 28:23
32
From understanding ourselves, to consciousness raising of what it means to be human, the continuous landscape of knowledge, progress, and rationality
2 Dec 2021
33:41
2 Dec 2021 · 33:41
31
From leadership, to congruence, opportunity, words authentically delivered for social good, and human thriving and development
25 Nov 2021
30:43
25 Nov 2021 · 30:43
30
From living in exile and being an outsider, to hospitality, communication and creativity, connecting with others, equality of status, and appreciation of freedom
18 Nov 2021
48:58
18 Nov 2021 · 48:58
29
From choosing your way, living with integrity, thinking like an immigrant, combatting dogmatism and supremacy, empowerment, making your own character, and opportunity for all
3 Jun 2021
28:00
3 Jun 2021 · 28:00
28
From social justice, human frailty, political activism, persuasion, human imagination, and doing the best you can
27 May 2021
50:15
27 May 2021 · 50:15
27
From encounters with difference, enjoying people, understanding people, compromise, anti-dogmatism, and the nature of being human
20 May 2021
36:17
20 May 2021 · 36:17
26
From abundance, optimism, improvement, the long view of human history, the spirit of inquiry, the distribution of power, and democracy and freedom
13 May 2021
40:13
13 May 2021 · 40:13
25
From inquiry and truth, joy of finding things out, question after question, and how creativity and imagination are essential for science, and make-believe alike
6 May 2021
29:40
6 May 2021 · 29:40
24
From novels as a conversation through the generations, tolerance, empathy, freedom, pleasure, being each other, and enlarging our sympathies
29 Apr 2021
45:16
29 Apr 2021 · 45:16
23
From lessons from quantum, science as a human enterprise, the values of the scientific approach, and amiable approaches to finding the truth
22 Apr 2021
35:15
22 Apr 2021 · 35:15
22
From finding out how the world works, acknowledgment of messiness, the perspective of a scientist, being moved by the currents, and all being in the same canoe
15 Apr 2021
30:28
15 Apr 2021 · 30:28
21
From wanting to be understood, clarity, poetry, and being glad to change your mind
8 Apr 2021
35:43
8 Apr 2021 · 35:43
20
From collaborative environments, the diversity of human stories, taking on taboos and injustices, and building your own life story
1 Apr 2021
29:50
1 Apr 2021 · 29:50
19
From the value of freedom of expression, an obsession with truth, a hatred of scapegoating, and giving up the Marxist-Leninist worldview he was raised in
28 Jan 2021
44:01
28 Jan 2021 · 44:01
18
From the meaning of music, its primal quality, music science and nature, music that binds us to place, music that connects us to people, being open, and the mystical aspect of artistic creation
21 Jan 2021
34:16
21 Jan 2021 · 34:16
17
From music, beautiful cassocks, performance, opening yourself up to experiences, collaboration, and role models
14 Jan 2021
55:24
14 Jan 2021 · 55:24
16
From doing what you can, the use of art in making arguments, and the importance of reducing suffering of all sentient animals
7 Jan 2021
30:52
7 Jan 2021 · 30:52
15
From freethinking, cultural interchange, cosmopolitanism and unity, to shared values, and the telling of stories
17 Dec 2020
37:28
17 Dec 2020 · 37:28
14
From suffering, human relationships, authenticity, breaking bad habits, perspective, to thinking about death and then living
10 Dec 2020
33:38
10 Dec 2020 · 33:38
13
From the use of history to understand today, growing out of British exceptionalism, the spirit of reform, and being a work in progress
3 Dec 2020
41:30
3 Dec 2020 · 41:30
12
From curiosity about the beliefs of others, the value of education, social justice, the value of age, giving up the idea of inevitable progress, and thinking about death
26 Nov 2020
39:19
26 Nov 2020 · 39:19
11
From everyone’s right to be inspired by the ancient world, happiness through personal development, and personal development as a sort of respect for others
19 Nov 2020
42:15
19 Nov 2020 · 42:15
10
From humanism as an alternative, harm done to the vulnerable by religion in Nigeria, and our potential to change the world
12 Nov 2020
28:38
12 Nov 2020 · 28:38
9
From complexity, the importance of stories, really really really knowing for absolute certain that there is no god, and being a Jew
6 Aug 2020
50:23
6 Aug 2020 · 50:23
8
From the lust for truth to building an integrated worldview, and why every person matters
30 Jul 2020
40:13
30 Jul 2020 · 40:13
7
From the joy of facts to the power of family
23 Jul 2020
30:38
23 Jul 2020 · 30:38
6
From serendipity to the importance of stepping outside your species
16 Jul 2020
41:09
16 Jul 2020 · 41:09
5
From skepticism to making your own luck to not forgiving yourself
9 Jul 2020
26:57
9 Jul 2020 · 26:57
4
From the fact of uncertainty to the importance of freedom of choice
2 Jul 2020
36:37
2 Jul 2020 · 36:37
3
From skepticism to the necessity of diplomatic good faith (not that sort of faith…)
25 Jun 2020
35:13
25 Jun 2020 · 35:13
2
From the role of chance to the joy of self-creation and human connections
17 Jun 2020
40:30
17 Jun 2020 · 40:30
1
From finding delight in the disorder of the universe to accepting the absurdity of life
3 Jun 2020
27:32
3 Jun 2020 · 27:32
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Guests on What I Believe
Comedians, scientists, novelists, musicians, politicians and campaigners – all humanists – on the beliefs and values that have shaped their lives.
Plus interviews with Robin Ince, Margaret Heffernan, Richard Wiseman, Rebecca Goldstein, David Baddiel, Leo Igwe, Joan Bakewell, Christina Patterson, Stephanie Merritt, José González, Adèle Anderson, Hannah Peel, David Aaronovitch, Helen Czerski, Ian McEwan, Isaac Hempstead Wright, Siân Berry, Andrew Gold, Polly Toynbee, Eddie Marsan, Steven Pinker, Angela Eagle, Mike Little, Francesca Stavrakopoulou, Saiful Islam, Anne Glover, Nigel Warburton, Frank Turner, Angela Barnes, A C Grayling, Tim McGarry, Clive Lewis, Kate Pickett, Nichola Raihani, Christer Sturmark, Laura Lacole, Susan Blackmore, Henry Marsh, Adam Rutherford, Samira Ahmed, Tommy Sheppard, Alom Shaha, Lynne Featherstone, Adam Kay, Alf Dubs, Jane Fallon, Ian Dunt, Sarah Bakewell, Kate Devlin, James Forder, and Lizzi Collinge MP.
Photos of Tim Minchin by S Pakhrin (CC BY 2.0), Richard Dawkins by Mike Cornwell (CC BY-SA 2.0) and Paul Sinha by Jason Leslie (CC BY-SA 3.0), via Wikimedia Commons, cropped.
About the podcast
What I Believe is presented by Andrew Copson, Chief Executive of Humanists UK. In each episode he talks with a well-known humanist about the values, opinions, and convictions they live by – and how they came to them.
The series takes its name from two essays, both called 'What I Believe', by Bertrand Russell and E M Forster: two of the twentieth century's best-known humanists, and both supporters of Humanists UK in their day.
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‘The good life is one inspired by love and guided by knowledge.’
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What I Believe, edited by Andrew Copson, brings the podcast's conversations to the page.
Stephen Fry, Sandi Toksvig, Tim Minchin, Natalie Haynes, Dan Snow, Joan Bakewell, A C Grayling, Alice Roberts and others reflect on art, politics, history, the environment, human nature, growing up, and growing old. All author royalties go to Humanists UK.
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What is the What I Believe podcast?
A podcast from Humanists UK in which Andrew Copson interviews well-known humanists about their values, beliefs, and convictions. There are more than 60 episodes across seven seasons.
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Do I need to listen in order?
No. Each episode is a complete conversation with one guest, so start with whoever interests you most.
Is there a What I Believe book?
Yes. What I Believe, edited by Andrew Copson, collects essays from guests including Stephen Fry, Sandi Toksvig, and Tim Minchin.
What is humanism?
Humanists are non-religious people who think for themselves, rely on reason and evidence to understand the world, and make ethical decisions based on what helps people and other animals to flourish. Read more about humanism.
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